Sep 18, 2010

Woman behind "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day" forced to go into hiding

The wicked Shaitain behind the "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day" has been forced to go into hiding because of threats to her life. Alhamdullilah it is clear that there are still Muslims who will not sit back while these kuffar dogs insult the Prophet (SAW) and Islam. This should be a clear warning to anyone who plans to do similar stunts in future. This woman has now lost everything and will have to abandon her family and friends and has even had to change her name - and this is nothing compared to the punishment she will receive in the hellfire unless she repents and accepts Islam.

Islam is clear on this issue - whoever insults the Prophet (SAW) is to be slaughtered just as Theo Van Gogh was.

A Seattle cartoonist who became the target of a death threat with a satirical piece called "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" has gone into hiding on the advice of the FBI.

Seattle Weekly editor-in-chief Mark D. Fefer announced in Wednesday's issue that Molly Norris' comic would no longer appear in the paper.

Fefer wrote that the FBI advised Norris to move, change her name and wipe away her identity because of a religious edict issued this summer that threatened her life.

"She is, in effect, being put in a witness-protection program - except, as she notes, without the government picking up the tab," Fefer wrote. He told The Associated Press on Thursday that he had nothing further to say because it's a sensitive situation.

The FBI also declined to comment Thursday. David Gomez, the FBI's special agent in charge of counterterrorism in Seattle, told the New York Daily News in July that the agency was doing everything it could to protect individuals on a fatwa list issued by Yemeni-American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.

Awlaki said in the June issue of English-language Muslim youth magazine "Inspire" that Norris is a "prime target" who should reside in "Hellfire."

Norris' cartoon inspired a Facebook page that caught the attention of authorities in Pakistan, who banned the social networking site in response.

Most Muslims regard any depiction of the prophet, even favorable ones, as blasphemous.

The Facebook page encouraged people to post images of Mohammed to protest threats against the creators of the American TV series "South Park" for depicting the prophet in a bear suit during an episode earlier this year.

Although the Facebook page was taken down by its creator, references to the page and to Norris' cartoon remain online.

Norris wrote in a post on her website that she meant her work only to be a commentary on the "South Park" controversy.

"I made a cartoon about the television show South Park being censored," she wrote. "I never started a Facebook page. I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off."


Her cartoon posted at the end of April declared May 20, 2010, as the first annual "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day," and depicts a group of colorful animated objects under the headline: "Will the real likeness of the prophet Mohammed please stand up?!" The cartoon says it is sponsored by "Citizens against Citizens against Humor."

That fictional group now has its own website featuring cartoons and comments.

Attempts to reach Norris for comment were unsuccessful because her telephone number is not listed. Her website has been taken down.

It is not the first time that images of the prophet have sparked anger.

Pakistan and other Muslim countries saw large and sometimes violent protests in 2006 when a Danish newspaper published cartoons of Muhammad, and again in 2008 when they were reprinted. Later the same year, a suspected al-Qaida suicide bomber attacked the Danish Embassy in Islamabad, killing six people.

 Norris was named on a hit list published in the 1st issue of Inspire Magazie which can be downloaded here.


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9 comments: on "Woman behind "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day" forced to go into hiding"

Jafar Siddiqui said...

Assalam alaikum,

Have you ever read your own statements? They are full of exhortations to kill and slaughter...is this all you have learned from the great life of our prophet? Do you seriously believe that Islam would have had its greatness if Muslims before us had been so committed to killing people?

I believe only people who lack the brains to decide for themselves and who lack the ability to help convince our enemies that they are wrong, resort to violence and that is a terrible disservice to Mmuslims, to Islam and to God.
The Quran says that it is not for us to judge others, but to show them kindness...it says so in many places, yet, there are so many who promote violence in the name of Islam, they should be ashamed to twist Islam in such a vile manner.

Whoso obeyeth the messenger, obeyeth Allah and whoso turneth away, we have not sent thee as a warder over them (4:80)
If then they run away, We have not sent thee as a guard over them. Thy duty is but to convey (the Message). (42:48)
…So if they hold aloof from you and wage not war against you and offer you peace, Allah alloweth you no way against them (4:90)

Why should we Muslims take such extreme offense to those who idiotically portray our prophet in mean ways? So they show pictures of things and people and say this is the prophet Mohammed, would you believe someone who gives you a piece of paper and says this is a $100 bill? No, you will laugh and tell him not to spend it all in one place...the piece of paper does NOT become a $100 dollar bill just because someone says it does, so why do we embrace someone's idiot presentation of our prophet?
Instead of issueing death decrees, can you not just put it down to stupidity and say, "This does not look like our prophet, we suggest you stop taking drugs that make you think this is a portrait of our prophet"?

Your violent talk only undermines Muslims all over the world. If you wish to help Islam and Muslims, try to actually DO something constructive, help widows and orphans, help flood and famine victims, help the hungry, instead of hiding and talking about killing people.

Show forgiveness, speak for justice and avoid the ignorant 7:199

InspireMV said...

Wa Alakium assalam,

".is this all you have learned from the great life of our prophet?"

Did I ever suggest it was? You are perfectly aware that this blog is concentrating on some particular aspects of Islam so to make an argument based on it only speaking about them aspects is really going nowhere. If a person had a blog about Salat would we criticise him for not speaking about Jihad or Zakat?

"Do you seriously believe that Islam would have had its greatness if Muslims before us had been so committed to killing people?"

I am committed to following the revelation and if it says a person should be killed then that is what I am committed for and that was also the position of our pious predecessors. That the person who insults the Prophet (SAW) should be killed is an issue of Ijma, meaning there is consensus amongst the ulaama upon it and as such it is wajib on us to follow this.

Is it really necessary for me to remind you of the jihad which has continued from the time of the Prophet (SAW) right up until today and which will continue until the day of judgement. In this Jihad many people where killed.

Also you should take into account the position of the Prophet (SAW) himself on this. narrated in Bukhari:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "Who would kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf as he has harmed Allah and His Apostle ?" Muhammad bin Maslama (got up and) said, "I will kill him." So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to Ka'b and said, "I want a loan of one or two Wasqs of food grains." Ka'b said, "Mortgage your women to me." Muhammad bin Maslama said, "How can we mortgage our women, and you are the most handsome among the Arabs?" He said, "Then mortgage your sons to me." Muhammad said, "How can we mortgage our sons, as the people will abuse them for being mortgaged for one or two Wasqs of food grains? It is shameful for us. But we will mortgage our arms to you." So, Muhammad bin Maslama promised him that he would come to him next time. They (Muhammad bin Maslama and his companions) came to him as promised and murdered him. Then they went to the Prophet and told him about it.

And:

“A blind man had a freed concubine (Umm walad) who used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and say bad things about him. He told her not to do that but she did not stop, and he rebuked her but she did not heed him. One night, when she started to say bad things about the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and insult him, he took a short sword or dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it and killed her. A child fell between her legs, and became covered by blood. The following morning that was mentioned to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). He called the people together and said, “I ask by Allah the man who has done this action and I order him by my right over him that he should stand up.” The blind man stood up and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I am the one who did it; she used to insult you and say bad things about you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not give up her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was kind to me. Last night she began to insult you and say bad things about you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.” Thereupon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Bear witness, there is no blood money due for her.”

(Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Abi Dawood 4361).

InspireMV said...

“A blind man had a freed concubine (umm walad) who used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and say bad things about him. He told her not to do that but she did not stop, and he rebuked her but she did not heed him. One night, when she started to say bad things about the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and insult him, he took a short sword or dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it and killed her. The following morning that was mentioned to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). He called the people together and said, “I ask by Allah the man who has done this action and I order him by my right over him that he should stand up.” The blind man stood up and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I am the one who did it; she used to insult you and say bad things about you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not give up her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was kind to me. Last night she began to insult you and say bad things about you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.”
Thereupon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Bear witness, there is no blood money due for her.”
(Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan An-Nasa’ee, 4081)

So the issue is not about being committed to killing people per se , but to be committed to killing people who the Sharia proscribes are killed. I hope that you can see and understand the difference.

"I believe only people who lack the brains to decide for themselves and who lack the ability to help convince our enemies that they are wrong, resort to violence and that is a terrible disservice to Mmuslims, to Islam and to God."

Then you have labelled the Prophet (SAW), Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali, most of the Sahaba and many of the righteous Muslims throughout history as "people who lack the brains to decide for themselves and who lack the ability to help convince our enemies that they are wrong" and so what is clear is that you are far astray.

Was Allah wrong when He said:

"Fighting has been proscribed upon you"
Surah Al Baqarah 216

"The Quran says that it is not for us to judge others, but to show them kindness.."

The ayat is not talking about this situation. In other places it commands us to judge. Should we not make judgement on the adulterer, the slanderer etc? Could you please show me where any of the people of knowledge have said as you said, keeping in mind the authentic narration of the Prophet which can be found in Ibn Kathirs introduction to his tafsir:

"Whoever makes his own interpretation of the Quran then surely he will take his place in the hellfire."

This narration is also found in Tafsir Tabari and it is Hasan.

"yet, there are so many who promote violence in the name of Islam, they should be ashamed to twist Islam in such a vile manner."

The Quran and Sunnah command violence in particular places and so it is you who is clearly twisting Islam and the Quran itself is an evidence against you:

"Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth among the people of the Scripture , until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Surah At Tawbah 29

Can you show us the ayats or ahadith which say there is no violence at all as you claim? Taking ayats which say there should be peace in particular cases and making a general ruling as you have done is misguided and dangerous.

InspireMV said...

"Why should we Muslims take such extreme offense to those who idiotically portray our prophet in mean ways? "

Because we follow what was revealed, we dont follow our desires and try to find ayats and hadith which support them.

As for your point about the $100 then this is pointless as these people are not claiming their pictures are The Prophet (SAW) but rather representations. Do you understand the difference between claiming something is something else and claiming it is a representation of something else.

We should really not be engaging in such methods of debate as it is not the methodology of the Muslims. I have links to some books on the Islamic methodology of discussion if you would like me to provide them as you seem to be unaware of this.

"Your violent talk only undermines Muslims all over the world. If you wish to help Islam and Muslims, try to actually DO something constructive, help widows and orphans, help flood and famine victims, help the hungry, instead of hiding and talking about killing people."

What I say is supported by the Quran and Sunnah and by what the Ulaama say. I can bring proofs and evidences. You have brought nothing but your own opinion which is against the evidence. Do you propose we hide part of Islam because you think it undermines Muslims as this seems to be what you are saying?

Also we are both writing online anonymously so it is stupid to make such a claim as you have. Also doing things in real life and writing online are not mutually exclusive, a person can do both. Does your writing online negate you doing things in real life?

Brother, you should not try to make these issues personal as that is the way of the deviants. Rather try to stick to the evidences. Attacking me and making implications about me only undermines your own argument as Muslims reading this will see how far you have strayed from the Islamic method.

"Show forgiveness, speak for justice and avoid the ignorant 7:199"

Indeed, but this is not talking about issues proscribed in the Sharia. Can we simply forgive the adulterer or thief and let them go free?

More importantly, while it is true you can forgive whoever wrongs you, you me or anyone else does not have the ability to forgive a wrong committed against the Prophet (SAW).

Jafar Siddiqui said...

Assalam alaikum,

I am not on this "anonymously", I have nothing to fear for speaking out for justice. If I should die while I am pursuing the just cause, then that is my ultimate jihad.

Islam spread into Indonesia and Malaysia and China, not because peope feared the Muslim sword, but because they were impressed by the peacful manner of Muslims, their decency and their honesty.
How many people do you think will wish to revert to Islam if there are people who scream for heads, everytime Islam or our prophet is "disrespected"?

Do you think there may be a possibility of making someone who makes fun of Islam, a better person by discussing it with the person?
Molly Norris came to a local Muslim group and apologized for her grievous error and has done many things to make peace with Muslims and we are all better for it.
What would have heppened if someone had killed her?
Nobody would have learnt a btter lesson and there would be greater hate and suspicion towards Muslims in the US.

You quote Surah Al-Baqarah 216, in order to justify your call for violence against people who, in YOUR eyes, insult Islam. Yet, you forget about 217, which lays out the REASONS why you should declare war on some people. 217 states clearly that we should be fighting against those who expel us from our homes and persecute us. 217 also states that those who turn away, will be dealt with by God when they die, so who made you judge, jury and executioner?
You cite the case oif Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf to justify the call to kill, yet you forget all the other people who insulted our prophet and he took no negative action. there is even the woman who used to throw garbage at the prophet every day and one day she did not. The prophet asked about her and found that she was ill, so he ministered to her until she was in good health again.

You ask if we can pardon an adulterer or thief, why not? If God can do so, who are we to hold on to cruel revenge? What if someone committed an act for which they were truly regretful? Would you still punish them when God would forgive them?

You cite Al-Taubah29 to support killin people, but the Quran only says "Fight against such people.."; the word "Fight" does NOT only refer to killing, it can mean discussing matters, arguing and a lot of other actions, all short of killing someone.

You say we should not be engaged in such debate because that is not the Muslim way, how can you say such a thing when discussion was the root of all progress made by Muslims and discussion helped Islam survive and thrive" Don't you think it was discussion that saved the Muslims who went to Ethiopia and were being demanded by the tribes who sent their emissaries to the King?

Bani Israil: You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them. You shall not walk proudly on earth - you cannot bore through the earth, nor can you be as tall as the mountains. (17:36-37)

Al-Sajdah:(Since) good and evil cannot be equal, repel (the evil deed) with one that is better. Then you will see that he with whom you had enmity, will become your bosom friend (41:34)

There are times when we have to take arms and there are times when we must not take to arms. I suggest to you, that it is better to not take up arms and be wrong, than to take up arms and find out that you were wrong.

You must not allow your ego to decide your actions.

InspireMV said...

"Islam spread into Indonesia and Malaysia and China, not because peope feared the Muslim sword, but because they were impressed by the peacful manner of Muslims, their decency and their honesty."

Of course this is true, but what you ignore is that Islamic rule spread into other lands by offensive Jihad. Take for example Sham, North Africa, Persia and Spain. It was Muslim armies which conquered these lands. Both methods of spreading Islam are valid and of course we would prefer the peaceful method and I dont think I have suggested otherwise.

"How many people do you think will wish to revert to Islam if there are people who scream for heads, everytime Islam or our prophet is "disrespected"?"

Allah Guides whomever He Wills. Lets look at the reality - there are many people calling for the head of those who insult the Prophet and at the same time there are many people entering into Islam. So that should answer your question.

But we dont base how we practice our Islam on what the kuffar think of this. I have heard the exact same arguments from the modernists when they say we should not have beards or hijabs and not call for Sharia so as non Muslims would h

ave a better opinion of Islam and this would be better for dawah. But when Allah and His Messenger proscribe something then we practice it regardless of what others, Muslim or non Muslim, think.

"Do you think there may be a possibility of making someone who makes fun of Islam, a better person by discussing it with the person?"

Yes this may be possible in the same way that it may be possible to reform the adulterer by discussing it with him, by imprisoning him or by many other methods. But Allah has proscribed that such a person is stoned and so we follow what Allah Commands rather than our own desires and our own logic. That the person who insults the Prophet is killed is an issue of Ijma amongst the Ulaama so we dont just get to choose a different way.

Putting your own logic over that of the revelation is the way of the Mutazilah so beware of this way brother.

"Molly Norris came to a local Muslim group and apologized for her grievous error and has done many things to make peace with Muslims and we are all better for it.
What would have heppened if someone had killed her?"

If someone killed her she would be dead. She insulted the Prophet so how does apologising to a local group fix this. If I wronged you brother in some way, could I make this right by apologising to someone else?

Again I will point out that you really need to refer to what the ulaama say on this matter rather than following your whims and desires. It is an issue of Ijma that such a person is to be killed. If they are a kaffir then the only thing which will save them is becoming Muslim. If they are a Muslim they are to be killed even if they repent.

"Nobody would have learnt a btter lesson and there would be greater hate and suspicion towards Muslims in the US."

Many a lesson would have been learnt and Allah has made it clear that these people will never be happy with us to we change our religion, yet you seem to be proposing we change a part of our religion so as these people are more happy with us.

InspireMV said...

"You quote Surah Al-Baqarah 216, in order to justify your call for violence against people who, in YOUR eyes, insult Islam."

I said no such thing. My quoting of Surah Al Bararah 216 was in reply to your false claim that "only people who lack the brains to decide for themselves and who lack the ability to help convince our enemies that they are wrong, resort to violence "

I was simply showing that violence has been proscribed on us. When the word KUTIBU is used in the Quran it means the thing which follows it is wajib according to the scholars of Tafsir. So violence is wajib on us yet you claim that "only people who lact the brains to decide for themselves" would resort to it. That was my point. I was not using this as an evidence for the killing of those who insult Islam.

"Yet, you forget about 217, which lays out the REASONS why you should declare war on some people. 217 states clearly that we should be fighting against those who expel us from our homes and persecute us. 217 also states that those who turn away, will be dealt with by God when they die, so who made you judge, jury and executioner?"

To deal with your last point first, being dealt with by Allah in the hereafter does not negate being dealt with in this world also. The apostate will be dealt with by Allah but we still kill them. Also the judge is the book of Allah and the Sunnah and I have given evidences. You on the other hand are simply making your own tafseer of ayats to support what you believe and you are simply dismissing the ijma of the ulaama of Islam. Again beware of the way of the Mutazilah!

Now in speaking about ayat 217 you have said it is dealing with the reasons for declaring war, thus it is evident you accept I was using ayat 216 to speak about war and not killing those who insult the Prophet, which raises the question then why you then went on to claim that I was using 216 to justify violence against those who insult the Prophet?

I welcome however that you now accept that there are reasons for declaring war and alhamdullilah you have then rejected your previuos posistion that "only people who lact the brains to decide for themselves" would resort to violence which of course includes war.

Surah 217 is not laying out the reasons for going to war but rather it is saying that preventing access to the Sacred House is worse than fighting in the sacred months. It is saying it is justified to fight such people in the sacred months and nowhere does it say these are the only reasons for declaring Jihad. To get these reasons we take all the ayats and ahadith on the subject.

Ibn Kathir says about the ayat:

"This Ayah means, `If you had killed during the Sacred Month, they (disbelievers of Quraysh) have hindered you from the path of Allah and disbelieved in it. They also prevented you from entering the Sacred Mosque, and expelled you from it, while you are its people,"

Could you please show me where you have taken your interpretation of this ayat from brother as I have never read such a thing. I have previously shown you a hadith from the Prophet which I think it is necessary to show again:

"Whoever makes his own interpretation of the Quran then surely he will take his place in the hellfire."

How is it that after reading this you continue to make your own interprations of the Quran which are opposed to what it actually says. Do you not fear the punishment mentioned or do you think this ayat does not apply to you for some reason?

Here is a link to Tafseer Ibn Kathir:

http://www.qtafsir.com

You should really consult it or other Tafsirs rather than making your own because I would think that you like myself are not a scholar of Tafsir. If you adopt the methodology which you have of just interpreting everything to suit what you believe then you will always arrive at the wrong conclusions ultimatly and indeed that is the very same thing that the people of innovation and kufr such as the Sufis, Modernists and Quranioon do.

InspireMV said...

"You cite the case oif Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf to justify the call to kill, yet you forget all the other people who insulted our prophet and he took no negative action. there is even the woman who used to throw garbage at the prophet every day and one day she did not. The prophet asked about her and found that she was ill, so he ministered to her until she was in good health again."

I already replied to this point so I will just leavewhat Ibn Taymiyyah said as it should clarify the issue:

"If it is said, “Can we not forgive him, because during his lifetime the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forgave many of those who had insulted him and he did not execute them?” The answer is:

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sometimes chose to forgive those who had insulted him, and sometimes he ordered that they should be executed, if that served a greater purpose. But now his forgiveness is impossible because he is dead, so the execution of the one who insults him remains the right of Allaah, His Messenger and the believers, and the one who deserves to be executed cannot be let off, so the punishment must be carried out. "

Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/438

It is common sense that we cannot forgive someone for a wrong done to another. You cannot forgive someone who wronged me so how is it possible you think you are capable of forgiving someone who wronged the Prophet?

"You ask if we can pardon an adulterer or thief, why not? If God can do so, who are we to hold on to cruel revenge? What if someone committed an act for which they were truly regretful? Would you still punish them when God would forgive them?"

Cruel? We are talking about Allahs proscribed punishments here. The punsishment is to be carried out and we dont have the right to not carry it out and to do this is kufr. Allah says:

"Whoever does not judge by what Allah Has revealed, Those are the Kafiroon"
Surah Al Maidah 44

I can forgive the person who steals from me but the punishment is still to be carried out and the punishment on the adulterer is to be carried out. If someone commited adultery and where truely sorry then yes we still must kill them and this is better for them.

Again lets refer back to what the Prophet (SAW) said rather than relying on our judgement:

Narrated 'Aisha:
The Quraish people became very worried about the Makhzumiya lady who had committed theft. They said, "Nobody can speak (in favor of the lady) to Allah's Apostle and nobody dares do that except Usama who is the favorite of Allah's Apostle. " When Usama spoke to Allah's Apostle about that matter, Allah's Apostle said, "Do you intercede (with me) to violate one of the legal punishment of Allah?" Then he got up and addressed the people, saying, "O people! The nations before you went astray because if a noble person committed theft, they used to leave him, but if a weak person among them committed theft, they used to inflict the legal punishment on him. By Allah, if Fatima, the daughter of Muhammad committed theft, Muhammad will cut off her hand.!"

Bukhari

Reflect on the above brother as you also are calling for the violation of the legal punishments of Allah.

"You cite Al-Taubah29 to support killin people, but the Quran only says "Fight against such people.."; the word "Fight" does NOT only refer to killing, it can mean discussing matters, arguing and a lot of other actions, all short of killing someone."

Again your own tafsir, please read the hadith I gave above and desist from this. Does any of the Ulaama give this interpretation? Have the Sahaba? Has the Prophet? I would advise you to read tafsir Ibn Kathir on this ayat and the meaning of it will become clear inshaallah.

The verb QATALA used in the ayat (translated as fight) can only mean physical fighting.

InspireMV said...

"You say we should not be engaged in such debate because that is not the Muslim way, how can you say such a thing when discussion was the root of all progress made by Muslims and discussion helped Islam survive and thrive"

I didnt say that at all. I said "We should really not be engaging in such methods of debate as it is not the methodology of the Muslims." refering to the methodology you where employing such as your example of the $100. Rather we rely on the evidences.

If your refering to something else I said then please quote it, I have read my previous comments several times looking for what you might be refering to and cant see anything.

"There are times when we have to take arms and there are times when we must not take to arms. I suggest to you, that it is better to not take up arms and be wrong, than to take up arms and find out that you were wrong."

Yes there are times for war and times for peace, but when fighting is proscribed and killing is proscribed we do it. As humans we might always be wrong, but we dont abandon Jihad or the hudud based on this. But the issues of when violence is to be used are in general quite clear and so as Muslims we follow the evidences.

salaam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

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